CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the sinful saved, believers, christians undo their Salvation ?
FIRST:/ The very 1st thing to know and understand is, it is only those "whose names were not written in the Lamb's Book of Life " who......will worship - the beast (and) shall be cast into "the lake of fire"
Revelation 13:7-9;
A./ will worship - the beast.
8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
and,
Revelation 20:15;
shall be cast into "the lake of fire"
B./ And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
THIS !!! IS THE " This is the second death " Revelation 20:15;
THERE IS NO COMING BACK HEREFROM !!!
Revelation 17:7-9;
C./ "and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is."
1./ AND, LIKE IT OR NOT - THIS FACT WAS DONE BY THE FOREKNOWLEDGE AND DETERMINATE COUNSEL OF OLAM ELOHIM LORD GOD ALMIGHTY; AND REMAINS A FACT OR FOREORDINATION AND PREDESTINATION AS DETERMINED BY THE GODHEAD THEMSELVES !!!
Jude 1:4;
For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Jude 1:3-5;
2 Peter 2:12;
But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
2 Peter 2:11-13;
Romans 9:22;
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
Romans 9:21-23;
Proverbs 16:4;
The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
Proverbs 16:3-5;
2./ And, most likely are among those whom abnegated their 1st estate and/or those who refused the election when it was 1st offered. I personally believe they are of the 1st group - among those whom abnegated their 1st estate whom had misgivings/doubts about what they did (whom God has allowed to be subject to some chance of Salvation - just as Judas [who was a devil] typified).
3:/ Who, nevertheless..."who were before of old ordained to this condemnation"
NONE OF WHICH FIRST ABOVE has anything to do with...........
SECOND:/ THOSE WHOSE NAMES ARE WRITTEN IN THE LAMB'S BOOK OF LIFE !!!!
Revelation 21:27;
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 21:26-27;
i.e.
OF THE SUM WE CAN SEE THE FOLLOWING THINGS......
IN THE DIAGRAM ABOVE (1) IS HOW WE BEGAN; and, (2) IS HOW WE MUST RETURN (one way or the other).
IN THE END OF TIME - the simple view explains and says it all !!!!
A:/ So that we see, find and/or discover..........how things began
how things end
for the two classes
and,
B:/ we see, find and/or discover..........
the initial explanations why........
thus,
C:/ we see, find and/or discover..........that,
it all begins with two classes
and, ends with two classes
and, what happens ultimately to the two classes.
and,
D:/ we see, find and/or discover..........that,
like it or not, it came every wit via the foreknowledge, determinate counsel of Olam Elohim LORD God Almighty via predestination and the sovereign preveniency of the Godhead themselves.
both, names written in and/or names not written in.
and,
E:/ we see, find and/or discover..........that,
these things were done, accomplished, decided, determined and finished before the worlds ever even began nor were even created.
and,
F:/ we see, find and/or discover..........that,
both classes were and/or are " both subject to vanity, opportunity and hope " each as the other.
each, with vastly different results.
G:/ It is by looking at the beginning and then the ends of things - looking at and/or to where and how and why things began; and, then to where and how they end - that we are afforded and allowed to understand such things in such light and extent; by which we are accorded the best initial views against which to compare all else that serves to form everything else in (and, that constitutes everything else in ) the middle - by which we are given a correct means by which to view, see and understand in all in between.
H:/ And, as we have here-to-fore seen, found out and/or discovered, our Salvation is and was decided, determined, signed, sealed and delivered - (1) before the very foundations. and, (2) every wit via the foreknowledge, determinate counsel of Olam Elohim LORD God Almighty via predestination and the sovereign preveniency of the Godhead themselves.
THIRD:/ Now, hereby, the simple means of determining the state, case, status of one's Salvation is to simply ask, to which of these two initial and end time classes does oneself belong ?
2 Corinthians 13:5;
Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
2 Corinthians 13:4-6;
2 Peter 1:10;
Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:
2 Peter 1:9-11;
2 Peter 1:4-11;
2 Peter 1:5;
And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
2 Peter 1:4-6;
2 Peter 1:8;
For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2 Peter 1:7-9;
2 Peter 1:9;
But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
2 Peter 1:8-10;
Hebrews 12:12-14;
12 Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
13 And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
Philippians 2:12;
Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
Philippians 2:11-13;
1 Corinthians 6:13;
Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the body.
1 Corinthians 6:12-14;
FOURTH:/ NOW,
CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the (sinful saved, believers, christians) undo their Salvation ? i.e.
CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the (sinful saved, believers, christians) cause that their names be blotted out of the Lamb's Book of life ?
CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the (sinful saved, believers, christians) cause that they should lose their eternal life?
CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the (sinful saved, believers, christians) cause that they should lose their eternal hope of eternity in Heaven with the Godhead ?
CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the (sinful saved, believers, christians) cause that they should lose their eternal place in eternity in Heaven with the Godhead ?
CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the (sinful saved, believers, christians) cause that they should in the end be cast out and cast into the lake of fire ?
A:/ THE EASIEST WAY TO ANSWER THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS IS TO ANSWER TWO OF THEM TO BEGIN WITH....
1:/ CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the (sinful saved, believers, christians) cause that they should in the end be cast out and cast into the lake of fire ?
ANSWER = no
The only thing that can cause this is worshiping the beast and receiving the mark of the beast.
a:/ Believers (true believers) (Christians - true Christians) are not the ones who get cast into hell -or- the second death.
b:/ fakers, pretenders, sinners, antichrists, unfaithful, unprofitable, liars, etcc... do.
2:/ CAN "SIN" the sins of the flesh, creature, body, being, of the (sinful saved, believers, christians) cause that their names be blotted out of the Lamb's Book of life ?
ANSWER = yes, in the case of the church of Sardis (only) Revelations 3:1-6;
i.e. there are those......
a:/ whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, - Revelation 17:8;
b:/ whose names were written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, - Luke 10:19-21; Revelation 21:27;
and then, those....
c:/ whose names were threaten to be blotted out of the book of life !!! Revelations 3:5; [ and, let us here pray that this case is reserved exclusively to the church of Sardis only: for, if not, "who then can be saved ?" BECOMES A VERY REALISTIC QUESTION !!!]
It is here that we find the one real example of the possibility of being lost, when, at 1st you were saved.
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NOTE: There are other similiar examples also......
[e.g.(1)]THE UNFAITHFUL STEWARD -
Luke 12:42-48;
42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season?
43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath.
45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;
46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
[e.g.(2)] THE FEARFUL AND UNBELIEVING -
Revelation 21:7-9;
7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
THE LUKEWARM -
Revelation 3:15-19;
15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.
16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
[e.g.(3)] THE SAYERS and yet NOT TRUE DOERS -
Luke 6:46;
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
Luke 6:45-47;
Titus 1:16;
They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
Titus 1:15-16;
Matthew 7:22-29;
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.
28 And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
29 For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.
Matthew 23:2-4;
2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
Matthew 15:8;
This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Matthew 15:7-9;
Mark 7:6;
He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
Mark 7:5-7;
HOWEVER, ALL OF THESE ABOVE examples (excepting, those of the church of Sardis who had not defiled their robes) "were (are) not "of us"
(1) they continued not "with us" 1 John 2:19;
NOT OF US - THEY WERE NOT OF US
1 John 2:18-20;
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
and they continued not.......e.g.
Hebrews 8:8-10;
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
and, ultimately,
DRAW BACK UNTO PERDITION -
John 6:66; " From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. "
2 Timothy 4:10;
For Demas hath forsaken me, having loved this present world, and is departed unto Thessalonica; Crescens to Galatia, Titus unto Dalmatia.
2 Timothy 4:9-11;
Hebrews 10:38; " Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. 39] But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul. "
1 John 2:18-20;
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
[NOTE: often there is only one supporting verse upon which to rely and/or establish an authoritative truth and/or precept: in which case however, it only takes one verse to do so.]
-or-
(2) "they" "who went out from us" were never of us to begin with.
"for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us:..." - 1 John 2:19;
FAKERS
FALLOW GROUND(-ERS)
NOT OF GOD
John 8:47;
He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
John 8:46-48;
John 15:20;
Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep yours also.
John 15:19-21;
1 John 3:10;
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
1 John 3:9-11;
1 John 3:14;
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
1 John 3:13-15;
1 John 4:6;
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
1 John 4:5-7;
1 John 4:20;
If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
1 John 4:19-21;
3 John 1:11;
Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.
3 John 1:10-12;
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2:/c:/ continued ....
3:/ Hence, Rev. 3:1-6; was written for the sake of those (in and/or of the church of Sardis who had not defiled their garments - vessels of mercy) such that by contrast, highlighting the plight of those who had defiled their garments (vessels of wrath - whose names possibly could be blotted out ) such contrast / possibility might resolve and steel those that remained with rectitude, resilience and indemnifying mortification unto serious and genuine repentance.
a:/ Is it possible that any ones name can/could be blotted out of The Lamb's Book of Life? yes, in the case of the church of Sardis Rev. 3:1-6; is clearly tacitly if not explicitly stated.
b:/ Does this case continue over inclusively of others ? No. not that I am aware of. And, this is in strictest keeping with what is certainly and clearly and explicitly the case of John 17:12;
which makes it unequivocally clear and certain that...
ONLY ONE IS LOST
THE SON OF PERDITION / ANTICHRISTS ...
see here
4:/ WHO THEN SHALL ENTER IN ?
Revelation 21:27;
And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 21:26-27;
A:/ THIS IS, HAS BEEN, WAS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE DECIDING - DECISIVE FACTOR !!!!
1:/ Which was decided and determined by THE GODHEAD in Eternity before the very foundations of natural creation. i.e.
a:/ you were hereby Saved there then !!! written in The Lamb's Book of Life, signed, sealed and delivered ! then, foreordained and predestinated to eternal life (and, to believe) by The Very Promise of THE GODHEAD THEMSELVES !!!
b:/ It became, is, was there then and will be and has always been a DONE DEAL !!!
c:/ You were given to Jesus Christ Himself !!! Who thus there then and forevermore had(has) charge over your eternal life, Salvation, faith, destiny, fate and eternal redemption.
d:/ You were "chosen in Jesus Christ" by foreknowledge and election there then !!!
e:/ Which, in fact has no other course other than to manifest accordingly.
cf. here
FIFTH:/ THE TRUTH IS.......
A:/ YOU ARE EITHER ONE OR THE OTHER OF THESE TWO CATEGORIES...The bottom line is this.......
THERE ARE ONLY TWO final, ultimate CATEGORIES - and, only two !!! wheat or tares.
of God -or- not of God.
That's it !! nothing else, nothing more.
B:/ both are all under sin, start out in sin, and sinners - until those ordained unto eternal life believed; then, they were translated = Rom 8:9; "no longer in the flesh" converted, regenerated, renewed, saved.
Once saved, these come out from among sinners and strive to "be ye separate."
There is not saved then becoming unsaved again.
There is only unsaved then become saved.
End of story. "perfected forever" Heb. 10:14;
(If) it were possible to become "unsaved again" once saved and/or after being saved
(then) Salvation (as such) would be null and void, unprofitable, and of non-effect:
(in which case) we would have Jesus suffering over and over again - He. 9:28a
when in fact what we have is...
one offering - He. 10:14;
FINISHED !!! DONE !!! " perfected forever" !!!
what we have is... He. 9:28b and, 7:27.
SIXTH:/ IT IS UP TO "US" EACH INDIVIDUAL to seek out, perfect, inherit, attain to, find, enter in and become all that THE GODHEAD has already done for us !!
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